What austerity standards should be implemented to cut back on White House spending?
Start by putting a padlock on the front door.
Did anyone notice that when Obama is on vacation the world continues to run...airplanes fly...wars go on....nothing changes?
How about we put the whole executive and legislative branch on part time pay, since they are gone most of the time anyway. That would save a bunch, wouldn't it?
Which riot is more palatable, municipal employees to protest austerity or the rest of us for a fed bailout?
The war where the producers defeat the moochers is a noble, just war. If government sloth riots, just haul them off to jail and be done with them. So to answer your question, the latter is more palatable.
What do you think about the financial austerity programs imposed by the IMF on countries in financial trouble?
If you are referring to their Structural Adjustment Programs (SAPs), then they are a bad idea. Many times, they cause more poverty.
Aside from austerity, has Greece made other moves in trying to reform its politics and economics?
I think you are right that the problem has more to do with How Greece ( and how individual Greeks ) see themselves as a nation and as citizens within it .
You do labour under a crushing burden of History .
But it is not all bad . Just Sixty years ago people were riding about with their political opponents heads dangling from their saddles , now when did you last see that , hmmm ... ?
And they rode on mules because that was the only way to get round three quarters of the bloody place , not like that now , hmmm ... ?
And for many a bit of meat at Easter and at the Panagyria , and the rest of the time Soupa , paximadia , Xorta , mageiretsa , and so on . Unless you had money or lived in the city .
Before the village of Ladoxori was buried under the concrete for the new port next to Igoumenitsa , I remember seeing poor people there who habitually went without shoes , that was the year Costas Simitis won the election for the first time , not so many years ago , hmmm ... ?
I think one answer is that Greece since 1821 has not had time to develop a fully efficient and morally sound civil service , that is to say a long tradition of upright men and women at senior levels in your Ministries to keep the Politicians in bounds .
You have very well trained ones , but what you need is ones who can say " Oxi " to their masters , and not " Ti tha kanoume " after doing something they know is not in the long term interest of Greece or it's people .
Oh dont get me wrong , there are plenty of " Yes men " here in England too , shame be to them , but we still do have that ethos of dedication (sometimes ) to doing your best when at a senior level in one of our big ministries of state .
That would be something very , very hard to inculcate into a culture that spent a little to long in the Levant , I think .
Are the greek austerity protesters the same people that advocated joining the European Union?
They're anarchists, ANTIFA, the Jewish anti-fascist organization. They trash countries all over the Western world. They cause chaos and cost money trying to break down the country so the worker's movement (Communists) can take over once the country breaks down and becomes violent and the masses just want anyone that will stop the violence and protect them. They set a police officer on fire today in Greece.
They're the same people who stalk and commit violence against the BNP in the UK. I'm sure they support the EU because the EU is one of the steps to a one-world governemnt (Communist).
What conclusion can be drawn after seeing so many Anti Austerity movements?
It seems you think the protestors are justified in their demands to be subsidized on the backs of others around them and future generations.
The protests we have today are in synch with the administration we have today. They do not protest government, they seek to bloat it.
When austerity will hit the US, will the protests be more violent than they are in Ireland now?
Yes, we are Irish younger brothers in terms of guns. But we have another way out in order to calm down the mops.Look at our historical statistics.
1.The 1930s depression was solved totally by the second world war. In economist eyes, producing and selling of guns, increasing military employments and relating jobs are the main and big engine to pull such a big economy out of the mess.
2. The Korean war had pulled out the Japan's and the US economy obviously.It was written in the history books.
3. The Vietnam war in the 1970s was to save in facts the US economy from depression and financial mess.
4. The financial outbreak in 2001 might be the main cause that the US enter the war in Afghanistan, and also Iraq
5. North Korea and China cannot understand why the US and South Korea have to carry out military exercise very close to their doors. Is it a provocation to solve the prolong economic recession in the US? Or is it just a world-cop obligation? It it would go on, it would turn to the time of producing and selling guns again.
Now your turn.
How long before the US has to implement an austerity program and make huge cutbacks to gov handouts?
Don't worry. I'm sure the conservative wet dream of balancing the national budget on the backs of the working and middle classes will come true. And the rich corporations and executives who bilk us on a daily basis, with prices and with decreasing pay and benefits at our jobs, will laugh all the way to the bank and congratulate themselves on the great illegal-immigrant and "terrorism" propaganda their media arms put out to distract us. :/
Why is their more protesting in Greece? how else can their Govt save economy if they dont use Austerity?
Well, look here...I can't find the article so that I can show you the exact statistics but watch now:
THIS IS THE INCOME THAT CERTAIN WORKING CATEGORIES ARE SHOWING TO THE GREEK TAX SERVICE:
1. AVERAGE WAGE INCOME OF AN EMPLOYEE IN GREECE: 19.000 Euros
2. AVERAGE WAGE INCOME OF A CIVIL ENGINEER/ ARCHITECT- those who are supposed to create whole block of apartments, roads etc: 10.000 Euros!!!!
3. AVERAGE WAGE INCOME OF A D O C T O R: 26.000 Euros!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and last but not least
4. AVERAGE WAGE INCOME OF A LAWER THAT MAKES CONTRACTS ETC: 56.000 Euros! (Ok! they are less thieves than the others above I guess)
Now tell me what do you understand?
Those who were robbing the state were those who could declare a much lower income than their exact profits!
Nothing has been done till now by the state and the present Government to catch those who were not paying their taxes and to confront and put in their position certain working casts that are powerfull, such as the doctors, farmasists and engineers!
AND GUESS NOW:
- HOW IS IT POSSIBLE A SIMPLE EMPLOYEE TO HAVE BIGGER INCOME THAN AN ENGENNIER AND ALMOST THE SAME MONEY AS A DOCTOR?
- WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THE AUSTERITY MEASURES?
ANSWER: The employees who weren't robbing the state and were declaring their actual income (average 19.000 Euros).
-DO YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT KIND OF AUSTERITY MEASURES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?
And the plain middle class people will pay for them, most of the people who don't hide their incomes from the Tax Service.
I don't expect you to understand, it's obvious you don't know anything about how it is not to trust your own state.
What is going to happen weh Greece Rejects the Austerity measures?
You're behind times. The PM has announced there will be no referendum on the austerity measures. From the link:
"UPDATE: Papandreou backed off his plans to hold the controversial national referendum in Greece to gauge support of the euro, claiming there is no need to since even his opposition supports the austerity measures. Though he compromised on calls from opposition leader Antonis Samaras to lead a national unity government, he refuses to resign his position as Prime Minister, a condition Samaras has attached to his proposal."
Why do the Republicans austerity measures depend entirely on the working class?
Traditionally Republicans have only represented the wealthy. These poor conned-servatives are just being used for their religious beliefs. As long as the Republicans pretend to be pro-life the conservaitve christians will obey them.
How is austerity meant to help the people of Ireland?
Helping the citizens of nations seems to be absent from globalization. Minimalism is one of the aims of UN Agenda 21 to conserve resources and stop consumerism. Without consumerism, our employment outlook is dismal globally. Another end result is to equalize all countries economically, socially, and environmentally. What better way to do it than complete interdependency among nations who all happen to be going broke due to their joint effort to create an international economic philosophy. We all did better when we controlled our own economies and invested in our own countries.
How is austerity working out for Europe? Isn't that what Republicans are trying to do here?
I don't see a question here. Just a childish rant. And the ones complaining the loudest are the 47% who don't pay federal taxes whining that the ones who actually pay taxes aren't paying enough. Typical behavior from societal parasites.
Would Democracy be abolished if people voted in Non Austerity parties in elections?
Democracy is abolished when people refuse to govern themselves and pass on the self control to others.
In America we have begun to vote for more security, more protection and more ease so we are giving up our self rule for the rule of some elite dolts who would never give up the power given them merely because they saw that they were wrong in having it. It will have to be ripped from their hands with bloodshed or wisdom. The wisdom is so rare in the world that it almost always come to bloodshed.
Why are the Greeks rioting/ on a strike because of the Government austerity package?
They are not willing to give up their perks and government freebies. It all started when the government raised the retirement age from 60 to 62. About 33% of workers in Greece work for the government. So there is not enough tax income to pay workers.
Why are investors punishing Europe for its austerity measures?
europe is being punished by investors because many believe the fiscal austerity programs will only worsen their recession, as happened in 1930 when the US tried the same thing during the depression, and what Ireland has seen obver the last 2 years, when it slashed spending and raised taxes. The result has been a severe economic downturn in Ireland.
Your second question is simple.
Investors are worried about the value of the Euro, as it is very difficult to gauge the long term effects that fiscal problems in multiple soveriegn states will have over a universal currency. It is extremely difficult to maintain monetary control over a currency that is supported by multiple nations. The effects of Greece, Portugal Spain, Italy and Ireland's huge deficits are causing fear in the markets about the soundness of the Euro. This in turn causes concerned investors to move to safer havens such as the Yen or the Dollar.
Why isn't private sector not making jobs in countries that have implemented austerity?
Austerity during recession ALWAYS makes the recession worse. It has been tried several times throughout history. But conservatives don't believe in history any more than they believe in science. They live in a fantasy world.
If Italy passes austerity measures, could it still default on its debt in the near future?
Yes Italy certainly may default with or without austerity. What most likely would cause a default is that the bond market refuses to buy its bonds and/or avoid them enough that it drives up the bond yield really high (which in turn spooks other investors and causes a death spiral). No matter how "austere" Italy can get it still must borrow new cash from the bond markets and will be screwed if it cannot do that.
Whether austerity is better or worse .... hard to say in the real world. Austerity should reduce spending, reduce the need to borrow, and make lenders more confident. But it also may have the unintended consequence of causing a recession, which in turn reduces tax revenue, which in turn can cause a default despite the austerity. It's truly a tricky issue.
Why are Greeks being such children about austerity measures?
They were sold the same line of lies the dems and progressives have filled the
heads of our poor and disenfranchised with, The government will always be there
for you, Trust us. And now that the rank and file greek has figured out they have
been fed a line of shit. They are extremely upset, and don;t care that the mother
government is broke and can not deliver. They want what was promised. Just
like the Sheep and losers in this country, Uncle Sam has turned into a pedophile.
He is now raping our childrens childrens futures. All in the Name of Barack Insane Obama.
In what different ways can I practice austerity- Do you have any suggestions?
If you are doing it for religious purposes then you are not supposed to tell anyone or even let them know you are doing it. That would be bragging.
The Japanese have a word "shibumi" that is the art of understatement in lifestyle and living conditions.
who are the people protesting the austerity measures in Greece, and are their actions justified?
The Greek people are certainly not greedy, why should they payout to those London, New York and Frankfort loan sharks, the Greek people were not the ones who ran up the debts, it was the housing and credit boom in s.e England and metropolitan U.S etc. that racked up the debt, and now they want to transfer that debt onto the Greeks and others while they enjoy 0.5% base rates, they are the greedy ones these Trioka Shysters have no shame and no morality, they should face up to their own greed and pay their own bills.
When will Obama start to implement austerity programs?
"Conspiracism" - an ideological worldview that blames societal and individual problems on perceived conspiracies. Conspiracism takes the anger over unfairness and corruption in a society and shifts it away from actual systemic and institutional causes. Instead, conspiracism scapegoats the problems on alleged cabals of evil plotters. So citizens waste a lot of time chasing ghosts and shadows rather than organizing to fix what's broken.
Then they could by lying and really be members of Austrian School or liquidationists saying that we need depressions to "purge the system" (they say austerity will stimulate the economy; the liquidationists know better but say the contraction is a good thing):
For a summary of the debate:
What are "austerity" measures that European governments are trying to impose?
First of all: Balancing the budget of these countries. This means reduce spending and the extremely "generous" pension plans of government workers (this problem sounds familiar to Americans these days).
Increasing the age for retirement. The early retirement age was an absolute abuse of economic principles. One should also understand that Europeans workers have extremely generous vacation plans. And then they enjoy a 13th or even 14th salary as benefit.
All this is being reviewed and some has already changed. That's why we can watch the riots. Riots of people who are unwilling to support a stable economy in their countries. They all have political myopia.